Verses 12-13 show that beyond the prolonged days of the wicked today, it will be well with those who fear God but not for the wicked who do not. Koheleth seems to have had a suspicion all the time that his view of . 2. In Encountering Ecclesiastes, James Limburg relates what fellow biblical scholar and commentator Roland Murphy said to him in response to the issue of the author of Ecclesiastes being often referred to as a great doubter: The great doubter? There is no use in repining or rebelling; _true wisdom his labour, enjoyed by him, is to eat and drink cheerfully; and 21st Century King James Version. 5:18; Ecclesiastes 9:7 To be merry This he speaks of sensual delights. Ecclesiastes 8:15 - Adam Clarke Bible Commentary, Ecclesiastes 8:15 - Albert Barnes' Bible Commentary, Ecclesiastes 8:15 - Annotated Bible by A.C. 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Then I commended mirth There is no man that has power over his spirit to retain the spirit; neither hath he power in the day of death: and there is no discharge in that war; neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it ( Ecclesiastes 8:8 ). life was a low one. You can't escape it. He believed, even when there was no evidence for believing! (quoted on p. 135). Honor all men. While this principle applies today to a certain extent, things often dont go this way, as weve seen. It will help us through the quandary that still remains for this age. heads and be cheerful, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God in And thus, it appears that the evil man is getting away with his evil actions, his evil deeds. But Peter said, "God isn't slack concerning His promises, as some men count slackness, but He's faithful to usward. [23] All this have I proved by wisdom: I said, I will be wise; but it was far from me. 2. His survey now digresses to consider a wise man's responsibility when Death is ultimately in the power of God but is also in the kings hands (NAC, note on verses 7-8). So you don't really know what's going to be, when it's going to be. Solomon in Proverbs 10:7 Proverbs 10:7The memory of the just is blessed: but the name of the wicked shall rot.American King James Versionwrote, The memory of the righteous is blessed, but the name of the wicked will rot. Perhaps the frustration in Ecclesiastes 8:10 Ecclesiastes 8:10And so I saw the wicked buried, who had come and gone from the place of the holy, and they were forgotten in the city where they had so done: this is also vanity.American King James Versionis simply that the wicked were able to die and receive a proper burial after a long life without having to face up to what theyd doneall the while having been permitted in life to be regularly in Gods temple, a sacrilege and mockery of religion. And so I saw the wicked buried, who had come and gone from the place of the holy, and they were forgotten in the city where they had so done: this is also vanity ( Ecclesiastes 8:9-10 ). Things just continue as they were from the beginning.'" Read the Scripture: Ecclesiastes 7:15-8:1 The book of Ecclesiastes is the most exhaustive investigation ever made as to the value and profit of various lifestyles. Our present life is a life under the sun, but we look for the life of the world to come, which will commence and continue when the sun shall be turned into darkness and shine no more. What happens to one happens to the other. It will hasten it. Men hardened in sin, because not presently punished; but they shall not escape, but it shall go ill with them, Ecclesiastes 8:11-13; as it doth also sometimes with the righteous, whilst the wicked prosper, Ecclesiastes 8:14. So you know, live it up now. All this have I seen, and applied my heart to every work that is done under the sun: there is a time wherein one man rules over another to his own hurt. PrivacyPolicyTerms ofUse. ECCLESIASTES 8:14. Love the brotherhood. 1-17. And thus, they give their hearts over to evil because they think that God is too remote to care. They begin to scoff at it, even as Peter said they would. The end of verse 5 and verse 6 say that a wise mans heart discerns time and judgmentor what decision to make and when. [17] Be not over much wicked, neither be you foolish: why should you die before your time? Not so. There is futility which is done on the earth, that is, there are This is because the instruction referred to obeying the king in general, whoever he wasor to obeying whatever human authority was in power. This is not some kind of terror of God, but a profound respect that does include, as with children who love their caring parents, a healthy fear of disappointing and, yes, incurring judgment, recalling that God chastens every son He loves (Hebrews 12:5-11 Hebrews 12:5-11 [5] And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to children, My son, despise not you the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when you are rebuked of him: We don't have that power. But in context the wording appears to continue the warning about not getting into trouble with the government. Then I commended mirth,. Innocent mirth, a cheerfulness of spirit in whatsoever state condition men are; serenity and tranquillity of mind, thankfulness for what they have, and a free and comfortable use of it; this the wise man praised and recommended to good men, as being much better than to fret at the prosperity of the wicked, and the seemingly unequal distribution of things in this world, and because they had not so much of them: as others; who yet had reason to be thankful for what they had, and to lift up their heads and be cheerful, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God in another world. MIRTH - Better, Gladness, or joy (as in Ecclesiastes 2:10). This would also seem to tie in to the warning against turning to wickedness at the end of Ecclesiastes 8:8 Ecclesiastes 8:8There is no man that has power over the spirit to retain the spirit; neither has he power in the day of death: and there is no discharge in that war; neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it.American King James Version. But that does not seem to be the main point of these verses in Ecclesiastes 8. Nevertheless, there is joy for us in the ordinary things of lifeeating, drinking, and sharing fellowship with the people of God (p. 198). of it; this the wise man praised and recommended to good men, as [11] Now no chastening for the present seems to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to them which are exercised thereby. ( Romans 9:20 ) The sovereignty of the king, which also speaks to the sovereignty of God. Ecclesiastes 8:8. drinking, and all manner of carnal deli Ecclesiastes 8:15 commended H7623 (H8765) enjoyment H8057 man H120 God doesn't really know." There is no specific reference to the government being righteous here, and the verses appear to end with the problem of human rule doing harm (verse 9), which we will return to. EAT, AND TO DRINK, AND TO BE MERRY. THE FOLLOWING COMMENTARY COVERS CHAPTER S 1 THROUGH 12. O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever! Still, the language resembles the skeptical precept (1Co 15:32), introduced only to be refuted; and "abide" is too strong language, perhaps, for a religious man to apply to "eating" and "mirth.". (Needing to give such instruction without any self-serving appearance could be part of why Solomon referred to himself as the Preacher throughout the book rather than as king.). To whom it happeneth, &c. Add To Cart. righteous, determines to give up himself to sensual lusts and is simply that the wicked were able to die and receive a proper burial after a long life without having to face up to what they'd doneall the while having been permitted in life to be regularly in God's temple, a sacrilege and mockery of religion. [5] But I will forewarn you whom you shall fear: Fear him, which after he has killed has power to cast into hell; yes, I say to you, Fear him. (8 studies) Ecclesiastes Study Guide Ecclesiastes Chart Scans (studies 1-8) Click to for the Mp3's corresponding to each study Or possibly the reference is to a general promise to obey God, with this including the requirement of following Israels divinely appointed kingor maybe even any nations ruler, since, as Paul later points out in Romans 13, all governing authorities are in power because of God and are to be obeyedexcept when there is a conflict with Gods law, which must come first (Acts 5:29 Acts 5:29Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.American King James Version). (Note: Vid., Baer in Abodath Jisrael, p. When on the cross, it said, "He bowed his head and dismissed His Spirit" ( John 19:30 ). Of the righteous and the wicked (Ecclesiastes 8:11) He would not have us to be surprised at it, as though some strange thing happened, for he himself saw it in his days, Ecclesiastes 8:14; Ecclesiastes 8:14. Note that the obedience to the king is for the sake of your oath to God (same verse). The Targum interprets it of the joy of the law; because a man hath no better thing under the sun than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry; of earthly things there is nothing better than for a man freely and cheerfully, with moderation and thankfulness, to enjoy what God has given him; this is what had been observed before, Ecclesiastes 2:24; and is not the language of an epicure, or a carnal man, who observing that no difference is made between the righteous and the wicked, that it is as well or better with the wicked than the righteous, determines to give up himself to sensual lusts and pleasures; but it is the good and wholesome advice of the wise man, for men to be easy under every providence, satisfied with their present condition and circumstances, and be cheerful and pleasant, and not distress themselves about things they cannot alter; for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life. Mirth - Better, Gladness, or joy (as in Ecclesiastes 2:10). him from his labour. righteous men to whom it happens ac Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the We must always remember just who we are dealing withand the awesome gravity of thatrealizing that this is for our ultimate good. abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God gi _No good for a man, &c. Some commentators think the wise man here [3] Be not hasty to go out of his sight: stand not in an evil thing; for he does whatever pleases him. Who is as the wise man? We come now to the last part of the books third major section, which began in chapter 6, dealing with explaining and applying the plan of God in light of it seeming to be unfair. As Peter is talking about the second coming of the Lord, he said, "Hey, in the last days there are going to be scoffers that are going to come saying, 'Where is the promise of Jesus coming again? There is no man that has power over his spirit to retain the spirit; neither hath he power in the day of death: and there is no discharge in that war; neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it ( Ecclesiastes 8:8 ). The second part of verse 3 says, Do not take your stand for an evil thing, for he [the king] does whatever pleases him. The phrase translated evil thing could mean bad thing in a more general sense. He intimates that he had tried for a better, but failed to reach it: "I said, I will be wise, but it was far from me." Recall that chapter 5 was the first instance of direct exhortations in the booktelling us to be careful in our approach in coming to worship God, the One in whose hands our lives are and who can help us through the present difficulties. The dead would not have been taken to the temple, for that would have been ceremonially defiling. His reply is not an observation, but the answer of faith. He believes what he cannot seethat one day all will be well for everyone who lives in the fear of God (Ryken, p. 196). [26] And I find more bitter than death the woman, whose heart is snares and nets, and her hands as bands: whoever pleases God shall escape from her; but the sinner shall be taken by her. No! therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do Life under the sun. their present condition and circumstances, and be cheerful and And He died. For in the multitude of dreams and many words there are also divers vanities: but fear you God. Yet these words of the Preacher show us the futility and foolishness of a life lived without an eternal perspective. 15 Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God giveth him under the sun. Commentary, explanation and study verse by verse. thankfulness for what they have, and a free and comfortable use Neither hath he power in the day of death Or, against the day, that is, to avoid, or delay that day; and there is no discharge As there is in other wars . There is no man that has power over his spirit to retain the spirit; neither hath he power in the day of death: and there is no discharge in that war; neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it ( Ecclesiastes 8:8 ). If moral evil is in view, perhaps the sense is becoming a civil lawbreaker. The Book of Ecclesiastes is, up to a certain point, the converse of Be discreet in relation with a ruler. The apostle Peter likewise tells us to be careful regarding both divine and human authority: Fear God. the preacher sets forth certain deductions. So God is very kind. We must keep in due subjection to the government God has set over us ( v. 2-5 ). Thinks that he has been clever and has hid his sin from God, or worse yet, thinks that God is condoning what he has done. I say, "Keep the king's commandment for the sake of your oath to God. If the spirit of the ruler rise up against you, leave not your place; for yielding pacifies great offenses. which God giveth him under the sun; "Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God giveth him under the sun.". Verse 15. California - Do Not Sell My Personal Information. The Preacher is growing more and more confident about this joy. Whoso keeps the commandment shall feel no evil thing: and a wise man's heart discerns both time and judgment. Abject in his fear before Moses, he was ready to promise anything; insolent in his pride, he swallows down his promises as soon as fear is eased, his repentance and his retractation of it combined to add new weights about his neck. Verse 7 in context presents more about the need for discerning the right time and way. So, because God has waited so long, because God hasn't speedily executed His sentence against the evil, people begin to assume that God has just withdrawn Himself. Others had likewise set themselves to make this enquiry with so close an application that they could not find time for sleep, either day or night, nor find in their hearts to sleep, so full of anxiety were they about these things. H8055 (H8800) remain H3867 (H8799) labor H5999 days H3117 life H241 CHAPTER 8 ADVICE WITH REGARD TO SERVING THE KING. The future is so uncertain. He had earlier said unto them, "No man takes My life from Me, I give My life" ( John 10:18 ). the righteous often suffer, and the wicked prosper. alter; for that shall abide with him of his labour the days Notice that the Preacher is giving us a God-centered perspective and that in verse 15 he is talking about the days of our life as a gift from God. This new Bible commentary is designed to provide 21st-century scholars, pastors, students, and laity an academically competent, readable commentary in the Wesleyan theological tradition. So, again, the problems of human government must be navigated with wisdom and righteousness to improve life where possible and to avoid making matters worse than they already are. 3:22 ) ( 5:18 ) ; Love the brotherhood. Ecclesiastes 8:14-15 Solomon reminds us that, as life falls out for us, we frequently do not understand it. Others see ruach here as meaning wind, and take the statement to mean that just as the wind is beyond our control, so is death. 6 That it was all labour in vain, Ecclesiastes 8:17; Ecclesiastes 8:17. And the LORD commanded us to do all these statutes, to fear the LORD our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day. Thus the Preacher warns against a capricious desertion of ones post (cf. What else had he seen? The next set of verses concerns following kingly authorityhuman governmentas a matter of life and death (verses 2-9). I commend joy, he says (Ecclesiastes 8:15 Ecclesiastes 8:15Then I commended mirth, because a man has no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labor the days of his life, which God gives him under the sun.American King James Version), and the word he uses for commend is a Hebrew word for praise (shabach). Thus wisdom here leads to proper caution and can sometimes result in influencing rulers toward positive change. Ecclesiastes 8:13. wicked men sometimes do not live out half their days, which, according to the course of nature, and common term of life, they might be thought to live; or if they prolong their days in wickedness, as sometimes they do, ( Ecclesiastes 7:15 ) ; yet their days at longest are but a shadow which declines, and is quickly gone; or . Section 5. [28] Which yet my soul seeks, but I find not: one man among a thousand have I found; but a woman among all those have I not found. Prudence before kings (Ecclesiastes 8:1)_ Verse 15. 14 The only one who really did exercise that kind of power over his spirit was Jesus Christ. Koheleth seems to have had a suspicion all the time that his view of life was a low one. But because God doesn't judge immediately, because the sentence of God isn't executed speedily, because God is giving you opportunity to turn, God is giving you opportunity to repent, God is giving you the opportunity to come out of your sin and to be saved and He's very patient with you. A Practical Verse-by-Verse Study of ECCLESIASTES - It is Don's interpretation that the book of Ecclesiastes describes Solomon's futile way of living as he heads down that slippery spiral of wine, women and song. the wicked, that it is as well or better with the wicked than the Ecclesiastes 2:24; Ecclesiastes 3:12-13; Ecclesiastes 5:18-19). And let us truly rejoice. All rights reserved. Sinners herein deceive themselves. and who knows the interpretation of a thing? Perhaps some type of pledge of allegiance to the king or kingdom among the general populace was customary at that time. So, "Though a sinner do evil a hundred times, and his days be prolonged,". He hasn't come and He's not going to come. 15 Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God giveth him under the sun. God does know. Though he be very confident of success, though he think to know it, yet he shall not; he cannot find it out. Wisdom helps people see the underlying meaning of things and teaches them that to act with pleasantness is better than to act with harshness (8:1). 8 Who is as the wise man? One of the common mistakes that people make is that of misinterpreting the nature of God. Though he be ever so ingenious, though he be a wise man in other things, and can fathom the counsels of kings themselves and trace them by their footsteps. 19952023 All correspondence and questions should be sent to info@ucg.org. Of that Solomon is certain. If, for example, people work in the kings palace, they will do what the king says, partly because they have sworn before God to be obedient and partly because they will be punished if they disobey. But he does not dwell on that. DEATH OF THE WICKED. The change of face here also reflects a new face on the problems previously discussed. No power in death. Of the fear of God, the need for which we have already seen in the book and will see again in its conclusion (Ecclesiastes 3:14 Ecclesiastes 3:14I know that, whatever God does, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God does it, that men should fear before him.American King James Version; Ecclesiastes 5:7 Ecclesiastes 5:7For in the multitude of dreams and many words there are also divers vanities: but fear you God.American King James Version; Ecclesiastes 7:18 Ecclesiastes 7:18It is good that you should take hold of this; yes, also from this withdraw not your hand: for he that fears God shall come forth of them all.American King James Version; Ecclesiastes 12:13 Ecclesiastes 12:13Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.American King James Version), the Tyndale commentary states: In the wisdom tradition the fear of God is the awe and holy caution that arises from realization of the greatness of God: Splendourterrible majestypowerjusticerighteousness. That's the sum of life for you, so you might as well live it up because you're going to be burning after a while. Things being so, as was related, Verse 1 extols having wisdom. He, for his part, had applied his heart to know this wisdom, and to see the business that is done, by the divine Providence, upon the earth, to find out if there were any certain scheme, any constant rule or method, by which the affairs of this lower world were administered, any course of government as sure and steady as the course of nature, so that by what is done now we might as certainly foretel what will be done next as by the moon's changing now we can foretel when it will be at the full; this he would fain have found out. This present life must be reckoned by days; this life is given us, and the days of it are allotted to us, by the counsel of God, and therefore while it does last we must accommodate ourselves to the will of God and study to answer the ends of life. American King James Version). Be not hasty to go out of his sight: stand not in an evil thing; for he does whatever pleases him. This comes straight from other Scripture, God stating that it would be well for those who feared and obeyed Him, with their days prolonged (Deuteronomy 5:29 Deuteronomy 5:29O that there were such an heart in them, that they would fear me, and keep all my commandments always, that it might be well with them, and with their children for ever!American King James Version; Deuteronomy 6:2 Deuteronomy 6:2That you might fear the LORD your God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command you, you, and your son, and your son's son, all the days of your life; and that your days may be prolonged.American King James Version, Deuteronomy 6:24 Deuteronomy 6:24And the LORD commanded us to do all these statutes, to fear the LORD our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day.American King James Version). But it is tragic when people misinterpret God's patience and God's kindness. Let us pray that we may view eternal things as near, real, and all-important. Moreover, rarely has human government been righteous. That you might fear the LORD your God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command you, you, and your son, and your son's son, all the days of your life; and that your days may be prolonged. observing that no difference is made between the righteous and I. these men against divine Providence, and the inferences they dra Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, God will judge. Send inquiries regarding the operation of this Web site to webmaster@ucg.org. Because He doesn't execute His sentence speedily, because He doesn't immediately come down to the fist of judgment upon a man, a man many times thinks he's getting away with his evil. The preacher begins this chapter with the praise of wisdom, from its excellency and usefulness, Ecclesiastes 8:1; and advises men, if they would live quietly and comfortably, to honour and obey the king that rules over them, and not be rebellious against him, since he has great power and authority . It doesn't matter to God that I lie or I steal or whatever because look, I'm blessed. God does see. That shall abide with him during the days of his life which God gives him under the sun. For the time being we are subject to human rule. Thinks he has put one over on God. In this division, dealing with the evidences of the vanity of life, That Jesus isn't coming again. It doesn't matter to God that I cheat. a man's wisdom makes his face to shine, and the boldness of his face shall be changed. Might as well enjoy what you got now, because man, it's going to be tough later. Solomon's pencil. That is a tragic, fatal mistake of misinterpreting God's grace and God's goodness to you. Yet that is only for now. with him of his labour the days of his life, which God giveth _There is a vanity which is done upon the earth_ Either by wicked Matthew Henry Matthew Henry's Complete Commentary - Ecclesiastes 10:4-11. 3. Cool, courteous, self-possessed, they bear good news or bad, prosperous or adverse fortune, with a proud equanimity. Nay, [3.] (9 sessions) This study is part of the LifeLight Bible study series of in-depth studies of Bible books. [8] But if you be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are you bastards, and not sons. Furthermore, the verses in chapter 8 do not seem to speak of human government rectifying problems so much as of us taking care to not run afoul of government (we will see similar verses in this regard in chapter 10). United Church of Godis a501(c)3organization. It may seem unfair because the evil are prospered and the righteous are persecuted. CHARACTERS: God, Solomon. So I commended pleasure, for there is nothing good for a man under the sun except to eat and to drink and to be merry, and this will stand by him in his toils throughout the days of his life which God has given him under the sun. Rather, the meaning here is that the prudent, law-abiding citizen will receive no punishment from the governmentat least, generally speaking. It's going to be well with the man who has departed from evil. [Compare 1 Corinthians 15:32 1 Corinthians 15:32If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantages it me, if the dead rise not? These seeming anomalies in the moral government of God are part of Proud member Partner with StudyLight.org as God uses us to make a difference for those displaced by Russia's war on Ukraine. 1. 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